Trivia Do atheists realize that everyone is born believing in God?

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Hindi po b evidence ang bible? Thats my point from the very start sir

The point of evidence is if it corroborates with other evidences and observation. Kung sa crime scene, hindi ebidensya ang kutsilyo kung walang saksak sa bangkay.

 

[liamxio]

The point of evidence is if it corroborates with other evidences and observation.

Well the bible fits in your description

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Well the bible fits in your description

So, Bible is evidence of what ba?

 

[jayendecastro]

Hmmm medyo triggered k n sir i just explaining things, san mababasa? ok kilala mo b si nimrod sir? Oh d qoh n sasabihin ang verse sir malamang alam nio po iyon kc sabi mo nagbabasa k ng bible.. try mo google sir

And second try to understand the logic sir yung brain po is for example childish kmo d try to decode rhe concept ng usapan ntin in a manly manner

And lastly sir wag tayong lumayo s subject dinamay mo b sila spider man etc eh alam mo n man cnong mga creator nila unless

Triggered, how??

And why are u inserting nimrod now?? Kala ko ba u claim na sa panahon pa lang nina adam and eve madame ng man made gods?? Nimrod’s time came after the flood.. malayo na sa panahon nina adam and eve yan.

I did address it na it a “manly manner”… nacompare ko pa nga na sa brain atleast we can detect it with instruments..unlike ur god…

Kaya nga sinama ko ang mga unicorns and stuff… naniniwala ka ba sa mga yon? Kahit di mo nakikita it does not mean those things dont exists db as u said? Same goes sa ibang gods na “di mo nakikita” din…

Di yan malayo sa subject kasi its just the same thing.. u just happen to believe in ur god.. pero all those things i mentioned can easily fit sa category na nagpapatunay sayo sa god mo…

Unless…

 

[liamxio]

Triggered, how??

And why are u inserting nimrod now?? Kala ko ba u claim na sa panahon pa lang nina adam and eve madame ng man made gods?? Nimrod’s time came after the flood.. malayo na sa panahon nina adam and eve yan.

I did address it na it a “manly manner”… nacompare ko pa nga na sa brain atleast we can detect it with instruments..unlike ur god…

Kaya nga sinama ko ang mga unicorns and stuff… naniniwala ka ba sa mga yon? Kahit di mo nakikita it does not mean those things dont exists db as u said? Same goes sa ibang gods na “di mo nakikita” din…

Di yan malayo sa subject kasi its just the same thing.. u just happen to believe in ur god.. pero all those things i mentioned can easily fit sa category na nagpapatunay sayo sa god mo…

Unless…

Bigyan kita sir ng pointers po h book po ng genesis ang time line nila adam and eve do you believe n dun lng iikot ang story eh 2 lng sila, give senses on it sir sbi mo nbsa mo n ang bible tapat my insight k about s arguement mo db? Ang sakop po ng genesis is to adam to abraham sir thousand years pgitan ng exodus when you said "panahon" it tackles all the time line in the book

Alam mo sir, ikw lng ang hindi aware sabi nga s bible "hindi mkakasumpong ang hindi naghahanap" db if c God ang usapan He gave you a freewill to "search" for Him.. ska its your choice not mine wlang arguement in my part kc their is no point to argue simple lng kung d k n niniwala e di fine ang mhalaga I stand my ground

Sabi qoh nga if wlang creator their is no creation, thats a common thing wlang magic dun kc yun ang flow ng nature, you cant make something out of nothing, kung yung sinasabi mo. Dun plng wla k ng rebate una plng kc puro k lng theory of origin mo. Kya nga my bible eh to prove that God exist. Npakalinaw nmn sinsabi dun.. pero sabi qoh nga, kung yn ang pananaw mo their is no arguement on that

 

[hardcorepoetry]

Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Sabi qoh nga if wlang creator their is no creation, thats a common thing wlang magic dun kc yun ang flow ng nature,

There is no such thing that is a literal creation. Everything only either just exists, was built from what already exist. Even birth is just a biochemical means of building. Either naturally existing, built or born. If there is no creation, then there is no creator, or the need to have one.

This something out of nothing idea is really built on muddying the definition of words by calling everything as "creation" that appeared from the assumed "nothingness". At paano mong nasabing malinaw ang bible? Iignore mo nlng ba yung mga parts na mali ang nasusulat? O baka naman ikaw nlng magbibigay ng kahulugan para maging tama? Kung ganyan, kahit anong aklat pwede mong ilagay sa pedestal kung saan mo nilagay ang Bibliya. At the end, ang tanong, bakit yung bibliya ang napili mo?

 

[liamxio]

Then explain its sir about the compos

There is no such thing that is a literal creation. Everything only either just exists, was built from what already exist. Even birth is just a biochemical means of building. Either naturally existing, built or born. If there is no creation, then there is no creator, or the need to have one.

This something out of nothing idea is really built on muddying the definition of words by calling everything as "creation" that appeared from the assumed "nothingness". At paano mong nasabing malinaw ang bible? Iignore mo nlng ba yung mga parts na mali ang nasusulat? O baka naman ikaw nlng magbibigay ng kahulugan para maging tama? Kung ganyan, kahit anong aklat pwede mong ilagay sa pedestal kung saan mo nilagay ang Bibliya. At the end, ang tanong, bakit yung bibliya ang napili mo?

Wow just exist npakahirap patunayan yn unless nand2 k n 3billion years ago? When you say biochemical then give me proof n by natural process life existed? Khit scientist k p it is very impossible ang gnung proposition? When i stand my ground siempre alam kong ipaliwanag bt d k mag tanong s kapwa ko believer prehas lng kmi ng stand.. if you have a debate give me your proof saka handa kng tayuan pro k lng theory

Then explain its sir about the compos

There is no such thing that is a literal creation. Everything only either just exists, was built from what already exist. Even birth is just a biochemical means of building. Either naturally existing, built or born. If there is no creation, then there is no creator, or the need to have one.

This something out of nothing idea is really built on muddying the definition of words by calling everything as "creation" that appeared from the assumed "nothingness". At paano mong nasabing malinaw ang bible? Iignore mo nlng ba yung mga parts na mali ang nasusulat? O baka naman ikaw nlng magbibigay ng kahulugan para maging tama? Kung ganyan, kahit anong aklat pwede mong ilagay sa pedestal kung saan mo nilagay ang Bibliya. At the end, ang tanong, bakit yung bibliya ang napili mo?

Wow just exist npakahirap patunayan yn unless nand2 k n 3billion years ago? When you say biochemical then give me proof n by natural process life existed? Khit scientist k p it is very impossible ang gnung proposition? When i stand my ground siempre alam kong ipaliwanag bt d k mag tanong s kapwa ko believer prehas lng kmi ng stand.. if you have a debate give me your proof saka handa kng tayuan pro k lng theory

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Wow just exist npakahirap patunayan yn unless nand2 k n 3billion years ago? When you say biochemical then give me proof n by natural process life existed? Khit scientist k p it is very impossible ang gnung proposition? When i stand my ground siempre alam kong ipaliwanag bt d k mag tanong s kapwa ko believer prehas lng kmi ng stand.. if you have a debate give me your proof saka handa kng tayuan pro k lng theory

Look, think of everything that you surely know that exist in the world. There is no such thing as a "creation made from nothing". Pag gumawa ako ng martilyo, a merely built it from materials a took from the environment. Even biological creatures are made from elements that is already present from the nutrients derived from the food. Even stars are formed from matter that already exist in its surrounding.

Ikaw, give me an example of anything that exist that came from nothing. Ung tunay na creation. I think yan ang mahirap i-prove.

Malamang misunderstood mo ang proposition ng bigbang assuming the theory said the universe came from nothing and came out of existence.. that is not proven. All it said that everything came from a single point, not from "nothing". The universe could already exist before that, just in a different state.

npakahirap patunayan yn unless nand2 k n 3billion years ago?

So madali ba iprove ang position mo? It is you who need to exist 3-billion yrs ago to prove that there is such nothingness.

Kaunting science class tayo.
1. Everything is made of matter.
2. According to Einstein's e=mc², matter can be converted into energy.
3. According to thermodynamics, energy cannot be created or destroyed.

So if we gather all matter in the universe and turn everything into energy, does that mean it does not exist? No. It is merely converted into something else.

 

[hardcorepoetry]

His thoughts are higher than ours,

Nsa primay school pa lang yan stand mo.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

His thoughts are higher than ours,

Nsa primay school pa lang yan stand mo.

Paglampas no kasi ng primary school, brainwashed ka na maniwala sa supertitious chracters with higher thoughts. Lol

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Marami different story about creation. Hindi lang Adam at Eve. In a different religion po, meron din po creator. Meron pinagmulan po. Hindi ko intention na panghinahan ng loob ang mga devoted and religious people but you see......? Kapag hindi lang naka-stick sa iisang belief system po at nabuksan ang isipan sa iba pang paniniwala po, ayun, for me, makikita talaga kung ano ang totoo. Lahat ng belief system or religion ay meron mythology ng how earth began. Ganun po. Kapag sinabi na mythology, wala itong facts. Alam ko masakit pero iyon ang totoo.

Meron creation mythology ng Adam at Eve galing sa buhangin. Meron creation mythology ng yellow clay naman na ginawa ng Goddess at siya nagbigay ng life. Meron naman na galing raw sa blood ng God kung kaya nagkaroon ng first creation of human. Meron din po na Goddess who created life form daw na associated to a sp(e)rm........... madami. As in.

Sana nawa'y huwag niyo ako sisisihin kapag binuklat ko ang patungkol dito. Nagshare lang naman ako. Iyon nga lang kung willing sila ma open ang mind po nila sa sinabi ko po.​

 

[liamxio]

Then explain its sir about the compos

Wow just exist npakahirap patunayan yn unless nand2 k n 3billion years ago? When you say biochemical then give me proof n by natural process life existed? Khit scientist k p it is very impossible ang gnung proposition? When i stand my ground siempre alam kong ipaliwanag bt d k mag tanong s kapwa ko believer prehas lng kmi ng stand.. if you have a debate give me your proof saka handa kng tayuan pro k lng theory

Then explain its sir about the compos

Wow just exist npakahirap patunayan yn unless nand2 k n 3billion years ago? When you say biochemical then give me proof n by natural process life existed? Khit scientist k p it is very impossible ang gnung proposition? When i stand my ground siempre alam kong ipaliwanag bt d k mag tanong s kapwa ko believer prehas lng kmi ng stand.. if you have a debate give me your proof saka handa kng tayuan pro k lng theory

Look, think of everything that you surely know that exist in the world. There is no such thing as a "creation made from nothing". Pag gumawa ako ng martilyo, a merely built it from materials a took from the environment. Even biological creatures are made from elements that is already present from the nutrients derived from the food. Even stars are formed from matter that already exist in its surrounding.

Ikaw, give me an example of anything that exist that came from nothing. Ung tunay na creation. I think yan ang mahirap i-prove.

Malamang misunderstood mo ang proposition ng bigbang assuming the theory said the universe came from nothing and came out of existence.. that is not proven. All it said that everything came from a single point, not from "nothing". The universe could already exist before that, just in a different state.


So madali ba iprove ang position mo? It is you who need to exist 3-billion yrs ago to prove that there is such nothingness.

Kaunting science class tayo.
1. Everything is made of matter.
2. According to Einstein's e=mc², matter can be converted into energy.
3. According to thermodynamics, energy cannot be created or destroyed.

So if we gather all matter in the universe and turn everything into energy, does that mean it does not exist? No. It is merely converted into something else.

Hayz hirap makipag debate s sarado ang utak, explain qoh sir h sabi mo "merely built" ibig sabihin sir energy is applied to make it "even" exist? You need a creator to create dming mong sinasabi about s theory of the bigbang evolution pro sabi nga ng mga scientist is the bigbang is cause by a creator, read genesis 1:1-3, ito nga lng tread is need an author to make a forum tapos idea mo its formed naturally?
basic science sir if their is no action their is no reaction,

At wag kang hugot ng hugot ng theory sir, si Einstein at the ends of all his formulas at studies napatunayan nya n God exist. Irrelevant ang theory sir kung wlang proper application.

Ito po ay interview ni Einstein nung cia ay 50 yrs of Age,

When he turned 50, Einstein granted an interview in which he was asked
point-blank, do you believe in God?

“I am not an atheist,” he began.

“The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the
position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in
many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books.
It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they
are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the
arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to
me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God.
We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but
only dimly understand these laws.”

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

You need a creator to create dming mong sinasabi about s theory of the bigbang evolution pro sabi nga ng mga scientist is the bigbang is cause by a creator, read genesis 1:1-3, ito nga lng tread is need an author to make a forum tapos idea mo its formed naturally?
basic science sir if their is no action their is no reaction,

Hiw did you come up concluding na needed ang creator? Bakit genesis ang source? Bakit hindi harry potter? Bakit hindi biag ni lam-ang?
Action-reaction is a theory about force, not origin. inapalabo mo nanaman e.

At wag kang hugot ng hugot ng theory sir, si Einstein at the ends of all his formulas at studies napatunayan nya n God exist. Irrelevant ang theory sir kung wlang proper application.

Actually, mali intindi mo sa storya. Einstein is a theist. Nadeny sya na nag-eexpand ang universe dahil hindi un tugma sa paniniwala nya. He tweaked the formula to match his belief in god and a static universe. He was proven wrong.
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Isa yang malinaw na halimbawa na theism ang position ng sarado ang utak. Kahit genius hinahatak nito sa maling ideya.

When you say biochemical then give me proof n by natural process life existed?

Birth is a natural proces. May nakita ka bang superstitious "creator" para sabihin mong siya ang may gawa? Bakit ako kailangan mag prove, ikaw itong may claim na hindi immediately obvious sa senses.

Yung mga argumento mo napakaluma na, panahon pa ni acquinas. Ilang beses na nadebunk pero ginagamit nyo padin. Yan ang kaibahan ni Einstein sainyo. Marunong siya umamin na nagkamali siya.

 

[liamxio]

Hiw did you come up concluding na needed ang creator? Bakit genesis ang source? Bakit hindi harry potter? Bakit hindi biag ni lam-ang?
Action-reaction is a theory about force, not origin. inapalabo mo nanaman e.


Actually, mali intindi mo sa storya. Einstein is a theist. Nadeny sya na nag-eexpand ang universe dahil hindi un tugma sa paniniwala nya. He tweaked the formula to match his belief in god and a static universe. He was proven wrong.
EINSTEIN'S BLUNDER
Isa yang malinaw na halimbawa na theism ang position ng sarado ang utak. Kahit genius hinahatak nito sa maling ideya.


Birth is a natural proces. May nakita ka bang superstitious "creator" para sabihin mong siya ang may gawa? Bakit ako kailangan mag prove, ikaw itong may claim na hindi immediately obvious sa senses.

Yung mga argumento mo napakaluma na, panahon pa ni acquinas. Ilang beses na nadebunk pero ginagamit nyo padin. Yan ang kaibahan ni Einstein sainyo. Marunong siya umamin na nagkamali siya.

Yung word n debunked means hindi npatunayan, well s point of view mo yn yun lng I dont want to make this arguement so long..if ever tumanda k ma rerealized mo rin maraming atheist nung nsa deathbed nila ska nila nkita un end of discussion

 

[EriX-Zone]

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Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look at the earth below; for the heavens will vanish like smoke, the earth will wear out like a garment, and its people will die like gnats. But My salvation will last forever, and My righteousness will never fail.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Yung word n debunked means hindi npatunayan, well s point of view mo yn yun lng I dont want to make this arguement so long..if ever tumanda k ma rerealized mo rin maraming atheist nung nsa deathbed nila ska nila nkita un end of discussion

Haist.. as usual, play the self-righteous card. Hindi k nmn nkipagdiscussion. All you did was display the shallowness of your position.

 

[liamxio]

Haist.. as usual, play the self-righteous card. Hindi k nmn nkipagdiscussion. All you did was display the shallowness of your positi

Haist.. as usual, play the self-righteous card. Hindi k nmn nkipagdiscussion. All you did was display the shallowness of your position.

alam mo sir kung naghahanap k ng healty discussion, dapat nag try ka ring unawaiin at intindhin kung sino at anong stand ng kinakausap mo. the bible is my position, siempre laht ng reason ko at belief ay iikot sa s loob ng bible. kc yun ang reference ko wala ng iba, yung shallowness n sinasabi mo bka ikw yun kc kung ano anong theory binabato mo wala k nmng solid discussion dun puro basic analysis lng from how you learn it. pero mismong bigat ng subject d mo rin naman maipaliwag.. tapos pati faith ng iba kinikwestyon mo? ib ang fiction sa history sir. ang bible hindi books of fictions fyi bible is a solid proof from old to new testaments. at isa dont pretend n my definition ang lht ng binabato mong arguements. kung di mo kyang i defend dapat alm mo kung hanggng saan lng ang pwede mong ilapag sa isang usapan. kc magulo lng di rin namn fruitful ang discussion

 

[plhbg1]

ang bible hindi books of fictions fyi bible is a solid proof from old to new testaments.

proof of what boss? proof of christianity?

 

[liamxio]

proof of what boss? proof of christianity?

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